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North Korea’s NOT The Bad Guys? Video Added!

UPDATE 11/01/07

Because of several comments below in regards to the “Axis of Evil” is all in Bush’s IMAGINATION here is a video:

bilde.jpgI was listening to Laura Ingraham on the way into the dojo this morning and she was reading from an article on the Washington Post website. Shin Dong-hyuk says he was tortured as a teenager. He watched as his mother and brother were executed, and until he was 20 years old, North Korean Shin Dong-hyuk had heard of neither Kim Il-sung nor Kim Jong-il.

The story is stunning and disgusting and left keep saying that we’re the bad guys, that George Bush is worse than Kim Jong-il….

N. Korean reveals childhood torture
By Andrew Salmon – SEOUL — He says he was tortured as a teenager. He watched as his mother and brother were executed, and until he was 20 years old, North Korean Shin Dong-hyuk had heard of neither Kim Il-sung nor Kim Jong-il.

In a testimony to stunned journalists yesterday, Mr. Shin, the first North Korean defector to the South who was born in the North’s notorious gulag, revealed a nightmarish world in which inmates and their children suffer lifetime incarceration, are kept ignorant of outside society and undergo forms of torture that are medieval in their barbarism.

“In my heart, I thought: ‘Parents committed crimes, but why were innocent children punished?’ ” he said at a press conference introducing his autobiography “Escape to the Outside World.”

“I want to tell the world of this.”

Slight, and with a humble manner, he shook as he showed cameramen his extensive scars. His story has shocked even analysts who monitor Pyongyang’s human rights abuses.

North Korea claims it is a “worker’s paradise,” and that it has no political prisoners.

But outside authorities have evidence it operates a vast gulag system thought to hold more than 200,000 political prisoners and their families.

“We didn’t believe it,” said Kim Sang-hun, head of Seoul’s Database Center for North Korean Human Rights, of Mr. Shin’s story.

“It took many months before we were convinced he was what he said he was,” said Mr. Kim, who debriefed and now cares for Mr. Shin.

Mr. Shin’s mother was imprisoned in “Total Control Camp No. 14” in central North Korea, for political crimes. As reward for good work, she was allowed to marry. The couple’s “honeymoon” was five nights together before being separated again. Mr. Shin was born in 1982.

There was no maternal affection: The camp’s 40,000 to 60,000 inmates were indoctrinated to spy on each other, including family members. His earliest memory is of following his mother to the camp farm to work; he has no recollection of being embraced.

Life consisted of work and criticism sessions. Remarkably, Kim Il-sung, the deceased founder of North Korea, and his son and present ruler, Kim Jong-il — deified elsewhere in North Korea — were unknown to those born in the camps and never mentioned by inmates imprisoned there.

When Mr. Shin was 13, his mother and brother attempted an escape, unsuccessfully. That day, a civilian car met Mr. Shin outside the camp school. He was driven to a secret, underground location.

There, guards demanded details of the plot. Mr. Shin was ignorant of it. He was suspended over a fire. When he screamed, a hook was hacked into his groin. Unconscious, he was slung into a cell with a skeletal old man.

The man cared for the child’s festering injuries and gave him his own meager rations. It was the first time Mr. Shin had ever received affection from another human. “I will never forget him,” Mr. Shin wrote. “I came to love him more than my parents.”

After seven months, Mr. Shin was released to witness his mother’s hanging and his brother’s execution by shooting. Mr. Shin noticed his father in tears, but he had only one emotion: “I was furious with them; as a result of their crimes, I was subject to torture.”

Life continued. His niece was raped and killed by guards. He dropped a sewing machine; guards chopped off a fingertip with a knife. Constantly hungry, he once found three corn kernels in a pile of cow manure, his “lucky day.” Unaware of any world beyond the wire, his dreams were to excel at work, gain permission to marry or become a team leader.

Then in 2004, he befriended a new prisoner who had escaped to China, where he was apprehended, returned to North Korea and sent to the prison camp.

Secretly, the inmate told Mr. Shin of the outside world. That knowledge consumed him. For the first time, work became intolerable.

On Jan 2, 2005, while collecting firewood in the mountains, Mr. Shin escaped, lacerating his legs on electrified barbed wire.

He reached China and found asylum at South Korea’s Shanghai consulate. There, traumatized by nightmares, he began writing about his life.

Now that his story is told, his life path is uncertain. “I have many choices, but have made no decisions,” he said yesterday.

Asked what message he would like to send Kim Jong-il, Mr. Shin thought for a moment then said quietly, “I’d ask him to take one hour to think about the situation in the camps.”

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12 Comments

  1. ChenZhen says:

    I don’t think anyone believes that NK are the “good guys”, but I still shake my head at Bush’s “Axis of Evil” comment. That was just stupid.

  2. TRM says:

    Do you think this crap will end when Jong Il dies? Who’s next in line? Is America planting the seeds of dissent preparing for his death like we are doing with Cuba? Seems logical…

  3. […] North Korea’s NOT The Bad Guys? This guy say it’s worse than we …I was listening to Laura Ingraham on the way into the dojo this morning and she was reading from an article on the Washington Post website. Shin Dong-hyuk says he was tortured as a teenager. He watched as his mother and brother were … […]

  4. Ed says:

    Did you read the story ChenZen? This story is something out of a movie or a book, it seems like fiction that they would do that to humans let alone animals. Get a clue ChenZen, they are in the “Axis of Evil”.

  5. Ed says:

    TRM, unfortunately Jong Il has a son and I’m sure it will be left to him. However the son Kim Jong Nam has had rumors circulationg that he and his pappy had some sort of falling out, however, in August 2007 it was reported that Kim Jong-nam had returned to the DPRK from China and had begun working at a key agency of the ruling Workers’ Party, fueling speculation that the rift between Kim Jong-nam and his father had at least partially mended and that Kim Jong-nam was being groomed as a potential successor.

  6. ChenZhen says:

    Get a clue ChenZen, they are in the “Axis of Evil”.

    Sure, if it existed outside of Bush’s imagination.

  7. Ed says:

    Does the man in this stroy exist outside of his imagination? How about the video I just added above. How about when Madeline Albright met with Kim October 23, 2000 and the primary concern was North Korea’s missile development program and its export of missiles to Iran and Syria. Albright planned to discuss those issues with Kim Jong Il but officials said no agreements are expected. Was that also in Bush’s imagination? Here read for yourself…

    “Well, first of all, I think it’s very important to put the trip into context in our relations with North Korea. The Korean peninsula has been — you know, we’ve talked about it as the most dangerous place in the world, and the last vestige of the Cold War. And I’d been to Republic of Korea, South Korea, any number of times, and been to the demilitarized zone, both as UN ambassador, and then as secretary, and that was surreal. I mean, you stand on one side and look across to this really deserted place with 37,000 American troops there….

    So having a different relationship with North Korea, potentially, is one of the last vestiges of the Cold War that have to be dealt with. I think you have to look at it in that context, as well as … whether the North Koreans were ready to [have] a potentially positive relationship with us, and South Korea, and the Japanese, or whether this was all going to deteriorate….

    I had probably about 12 hours of time with Kim Jong Il himself, six in real meetings, and other in various kinds of social occasions. [I] tried to see whether there’s something that we can do about what is considered a great threat to us — which is their missile potential, and their export of missile technology to other countries, and, generally, their military power — and what can be done to defuse this very dangerous situation…. “

    Spend a few minutes watching the video above…

  8. ChenZhen says:

    Like I said, I’m not defending NK here. My point is, historians are going to look back at the “Axis of Evil” and conclude that it’s just a phrase that Bush made up. There is no “axis”, and “evil”, of course, is subjective.

    I’m still wondering what Bush was hoping to accomplish by this. I mean, he’s stated on multiple occasions that he hopes to deal with the situation with diplomacy. I’d think that’d be a little tougher after one has dubbed them as part of some network arranged by Satan or governed by some dark supernatural spirit. The use of the phrase is more inflammatory than it is an attempt to be productive.

  9. Ed says:

    Agreed, and I would like to state that I do NOT agree with Bush on a whole list of things, however that being said, given your statement that it is a “slogan” and the word “evil” is subjective, after watching the video I come to the conclusion that North Korea IS evil and that argument cannot be contradicted. It’s people eat grass and dirt becuase that little man refuses help from other nations and that help that does come goes to his military who are on stand-by at all times.

    200,000 political prisoners and their families are held in concentration camps there and reading the story above know no other way of life. He tortures children and executes their families in front of them for what? Control.

    Now just one quick point… I refer to the info about Madeline Albright I put above. Clinton’s primary concern was North Korea’s missile development program and its export of missiles to Iran and Syria, all of them want to “Wipe us off the map”. The Axis Of Evil during WWII was Japan, Italy and Germany al of whom wanted to destroy us. It is not just a slogan but a brandishing and I agree should be used cautiosly, however given those whom are now brandished with the term are in a constant state of threatening us and others around the globe. For a bumper sticker it sure is right.

  10. Greg says:

    45:45 “each time a patient received their site we were amazed to see them direct their greatfullness toward the great leader”.

    Were you really “amazed”. I’m not amazed at all. Most people would say whatever they needed to say to stay out of the gulag.

  11. Ed says:

    Yep. We know what happens to those who speak out against him.

  12. Mo says:

    ChenZhen
    I don’t think anyone believes that NK are the “good guys”, but I still shake my head at Bush’s “Axis of Evil” comment. That was just stupid.

    If you do not think what this young man and countless others have suffered is pure evil, then you are a sad person, indeed.

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